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chief negotiator saeb erekat accused israel of "defying the whole international community." in syria, internet access and most phone service was blocked for a second day. opposition activists blamed the regime. government officials insisted rebels were behind the outage. meanwhile, fighting continued in and around damascus, but government troops managed to reopen the road to the city's airport. the u.s. soldier accused of espionage in the wikileaks document dump has conceded he considered suicide after his arrest. private first class bradley manning was cross-examined today in a pre-trial hearing at fort meade, maryland. he admitted making a noose out of bed sheets before being sent to the u.s. marine corps brig at quantico, virginia. manning says his treatment there was so harsh, the charges should be dismissed. the military says manning was a suicide risk, so jailers kept him isolated and took away his clothes. the holders of half of that record powerball jackpot of $588 million came forward today in missouri. a 52-year-old mechanic, mark hill, and his wife cindy were intr
chief negotiator saeb erekat accused israel of "defying the whole international community." in syria, internet access and most phone service was blocked for a second day. opposition activists blamed the regime. government officials insisted rebels were behind the outage. meanwhile, fighting continued in and around damascus, but government troops managed to reopen the road to the city's airport. the u.s. soldier accused of espionage in the wikileaks document dump has conceded he...
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supporting israel is due to the fact that israel is continuing to disregard the will of the national community that has been called by all international community on israel to stop the expansion of settlements but yet they're moving ahead with it which is isolating israel and i hope this will further isolate this aggression policy of israel and will encourage the members of the international community to hold israel accountable in a practical way on its way relations to the international law and its well ations to the rights of the palestinian people especially on the expansion of illegal settlements. was to whistleblower dismissed speculation that his health deteriorating instead he's revealed to us that there will be a new sensational explosion next year which he promises will send shock waves around the world of course one of laura smith spoke to the wiki leaks supreme. as any journalist working in london now is i'm pretty familiar with standing outside the ecuadorian embassy waiting for julian assange is to come out and talk from the balcony just to my right here but this evening
supporting israel is due to the fact that israel is continuing to disregard the will of the national community that has been called by all international community on israel to stop the expansion of settlements but yet they're moving ahead with it which is isolating israel and i hope this will further isolate this aggression policy of israel and will encourage the members of the international community to hold israel accountable in a practical way on its way relations to the international law...
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new status to go for example to the international criminal court in the hague where they can accuse israel of alleged crimes and of course these kind of threats in the past has prevented some israeli lawmakers as well as military leaders who are traveling abroad because they're all concerned that could be a wasted over such issues the united states through its unflinching support for israel has alienated a lot of its old time allies in the united nations susan rice the american ambassador to the united nations after slamming the vote again reiterated the american position that it will not change anything on the ground to a grand pronouncements. and the palestinian people will wake up tomorrow and find that little about their lives has changed today's vote should not be misconstrued by any as constituting eligibility for u.n. membership it does not this resolution does not establish that palestine is a state and yet talking to the average israeli on the street largely the response here is muted most israelis i've been talking to are actually by and large ignoring this fundamental and histor
new status to go for example to the international criminal court in the hague where they can accuse israel of alleged crimes and of course these kind of threats in the past has prevented some israeli lawmakers as well as military leaders who are traveling abroad because they're all concerned that could be a wasted over such issues the united states through its unflinching support for israel has alienated a lot of its old time allies in the united nations susan rice the american ambassador to...
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without negotiating the borders of one with israel. here is the problem. negotiation negotiations are in a standstill. as we saw last week violent extremists like hamas are gaining influence. palestinian authority, which rejects violence, recognizes israel, is losing influence and patience. last week secretary clinton c s successfully negotiated the cease fire but wasn't able to persuade palestinian president mahmoud abbas to drop this bid. >> margaret, are there consequences for the united states and iz role for this vote? >> reporter: potentially. the concern is that congress could cut off funds to the palestinian authority. the u.s. gave about $495 million in aid last year, which helped keep that peaceful government in power. the state department says that money needs to continue. benjamin netanyahu faces re-election in january says this vote is meaningless. threatening to withhold tax funds. he says he is willing to begin peace negotiations. >> egypt's parliament, dominated by conservative muslims approved a new constitution early this morning. the ass
without negotiating the borders of one with israel. here is the problem. negotiation negotiations are in a standstill. as we saw last week violent extremists like hamas are gaining influence. palestinian authority, which rejects violence, recognizes israel, is losing influence and patience. last week secretary clinton c s successfully negotiated the cease fire but wasn't able to persuade palestinian president mahmoud abbas to drop this bid. >> margaret, are there consequences for the...
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and so, seek war crimes charges against israel. u.s. officials call the u.n.'s recognition a new obstacle to peace. >>> and at this hour, much of syria is now cut off from the outside world, as the bloody civil war there intensifies. internet service has been down for more than 24 hours. no planes are flying into or out of the capital, damascus. cell phone service also down. government and rebel forces blame each other for the outages. >>> finally, turns out even michael jordan can't break all the rules. a miami country club, at least attempted to show the six-time nba champion the door, banning him because he dared to wear cargo shorts that had many pockets on them, violating a bermuda short only dress code. jordan was on the 12th hole when he was asked to change. when he refused, he was asked to leave and never return. but he is michael jordan. so he decided to play out the 18 before he left. >> who knew cargo shorts were controversial? >> pockets. pockets. >> too many pockets, i guess. >>> now, the stalemate in washington over the fiscal cliff. everyone's ta
and so, seek war crimes charges against israel. u.s. officials call the u.n.'s recognition a new obstacle to peace. >>> and at this hour, much of syria is now cut off from the outside world, as the bloody civil war there intensifies. internet service has been down for more than 24 hours. no planes are flying into or out of the capital, damascus. cell phone service also down. government and rebel forces blame each other for the outages. >>> finally, turns out even michael...
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maybe we choose to ignore our friends in israel where diversity visas were received. or albania where we went to war to ensure the integrity and the saving of those people. or hungary or iceland, or maybe our strong ally, turkey. that's what diversity visas represent. and there is no reason to borrow from peter to pay paul f my friends would really pay attention to the recent charge of the november 6 election, they would know what america needs is comprehensive immigration reform. if i might in this debate of deficit reduction and the need for increased revenue, we know that if you had comprehensive immigration reform over 10 years, you would introduce them to the economy -- into the economy $1.5 trillion. that's a reason to come to the floor right now and vote this bill down and start in the next week and put on the floor the bills that mr. gutierrez and myself and many others at one time senator mccain, wanted to put on the floor of the senate and the house. my concern is that we try to come in a bipartisan manner. i introduced legislation, an amendment in the marku
maybe we choose to ignore our friends in israel where diversity visas were received. or albania where we went to war to ensure the integrity and the saving of those people. or hungary or iceland, or maybe our strong ally, turkey. that's what diversity visas represent. and there is no reason to borrow from peter to pay paul f my friends would really pay attention to the recent charge of the november 6 election, they would know what america needs is comprehensive immigration reform. if i might in...
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more than two thirds of members voted in favor of upgrading its status the decision came as a blow to israel and the u.s. who opposed the move calling it counterproductive well correspondent. and activist and filmmaker haifa in gaza have more now on how this historic vote was received in both camps. these ladies certainly are downplaying the significance of this vote although we have seen them would use the kind of rhetoric that they've been acting over the past few weeks and months certainly they're no longer issuing the same kinds of threats that they were before presumably because they understand that this will only further isolate them in the international community the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has repeatedly said that this vote does not change the reality on the ground the israeli position is that it is a unilateral step by the palestinians they accuse the resolution of being one sided both the united states and israel are trying to downplay the significance of this vote they certainly all saying that it's not going to change the reality on the ground in this despite th
more than two thirds of members voted in favor of upgrading its status the decision came as a blow to israel and the u.s. who opposed the move calling it counterproductive well correspondent. and activist and filmmaker haifa in gaza have more now on how this historic vote was received in both camps. these ladies certainly are downplaying the significance of this vote although we have seen them would use the kind of rhetoric that they've been acting over the past few weeks and months certainly...
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risks possible isolation due to its unflinching support for israel. what hillary clinton has actually said can only be understood within the old context the us is an evil to get out of the rot it's political rot of many years partly the united states its is stuck in its own foreign policy of all it is incapable of adapting to a new middle east to the so-called arab spring to the new realities that are emerging from the region it is still trying to side with the israeli lobby is trying to back israel right or wrong along with few islands that are kind of basically exist within within the american political sphere it's embarrassing day for american foreign policy today yet they persist and their refuse to depart and leave that all started school politics today was this this amazing historic chance for the rest of the international community to challenge the u.s. and israel and their addicted hearts and to say in one harmonious voice that we do support in principle the establishment of a palestinian state. well the historic u.n. vote and prospects for pe
risks possible isolation due to its unflinching support for israel. what hillary clinton has actually said can only be understood within the old context the us is an evil to get out of the rot it's political rot of many years partly the united states its is stuck in its own foreign policy of all it is incapable of adapting to a new middle east to the so-called arab spring to the new realities that are emerging from the region it is still trying to side with the israeli lobby is trying to back...
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well following the vote both israel and the u.s. tried to downplay its significance washington's amboy to the u.n. susan rice the palestinian hopes are doomed to failure as recognition by the u.n. won't change anything on the ground today's grand pronouncements will soon fade and the palestinian people will wake up tomorrow and find that little about their lives has changed today's vote should not be misconstrued by any as constituting eligibility for u.n. membership it does not this resolution does not establish that. there is a state. ramsey baroud added to her and palestine chronicle dot com says washington's middle east rhetoric is outdated and the un vote shows the u.s. risks possible isolation because of its unflinching support for israel. what hillary clinton has actually said can only be understood within the old context the us is an evil to get out of the rot it's political rot of many years partly the united states its is stuck in its own foreign policy of all it is incapable of adapting to a new middle east to the so-call
well following the vote both israel and the u.s. tried to downplay its significance washington's amboy to the u.n. susan rice the palestinian hopes are doomed to failure as recognition by the u.n. won't change anything on the ground today's grand pronouncements will soon fade and the palestinian people will wake up tomorrow and find that little about their lives has changed today's vote should not be misconstrued by any as constituting eligibility for u.n. membership it does not this resolution...
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. >>> a diplomatic defeat for the united states and israel as palestinians celebrate a vote at the united nations. a live report from ramallah is straight ahead. >>> president obama and mitt romney face-to-face for the first time since the election. we will tell you how it went and what the former political rivals discussed. that's ahead. oney. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'll start investing early, he'll find some good people to help guide him, and he'll set money aside from his first day of work to his last, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. >>> a small but symbolic victory for palestinians today. the united nations assembly voted overwhelmingly to grant palestinians what's called nonmember observer state status, a stinging defeat for the united states and israel, which voted against the resolution. the secretary of state hillary clinton condemned the decision as quote, counterproductive to peace efforts. the u.s.
. >>> a diplomatic defeat for the united states and israel as palestinians celebrate a vote at the united nations. a live report from ramallah is straight ahead. >>> president obama and mitt romney face-to-face for the first time since the election. we will tell you how it went and what the former political rivals discussed. that's ahead. oney. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and...
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and israel that were desperately trying to have this vote today not happen. so that we would not to be shown to be so isolated in the world in terms of our country's perspective and the israeli perspective on this issue. the u.s. knew that the vote would look this lopsided which is why we did not want the vote to happen, but it happened anyway and it happened just like we knew it would. now what? also on your plate, after president obama took his big historic trip to burma this month, the first time a u.s. president has ever visited burma, the burmese government today attacked their own people using what is being described as incendiary devices to break up a protest of buddhist monks in their iconic flowing robes. also while you're spinning the chore wheel about what america should do in the world today, consider the egyptian president who was the go-between for us on trying to shut down the war between israel and gaza this month, the first thing the egyptian president did after getting that cease-fire was assign himself new dictatorial powers that he said co
and israel that were desperately trying to have this vote today not happen. so that we would not to be shown to be so isolated in the world in terms of our country's perspective and the israeli perspective on this issue. the u.s. knew that the vote would look this lopsided which is why we did not want the vote to happen, but it happened anyway and it happened just like we knew it would. now what? also on your plate, after president obama took his big historic trip to burma this month, the first...
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of israel taken the news of this vote so far. well when the israeli ambassador to the united nations one poser put forward his address to the united nations general assembly he was essentially with the same thing what has been and continues to be the israeli point of view he said that the palestinian leadership made a mistake in making this vote in the first place he said that the resolution was one sided and it did not in any way it grace the security concerns and that the state of israel has also said that it would push the peace process forward backwards rather than move it forward and this is a view that we've heard repeatedly from the israeli prime minister binyamin netanyahu he says that the only way forward for two state solution is to be direct negotiations at the negotiating table between israelis and palestinians and cannot in any decoration of the state are first having these negotiations going through a long lasting peace now we have heard already cold calls for sanctions we certainly have heard earlier this week from
of israel taken the news of this vote so far. well when the israeli ambassador to the united nations one poser put forward his address to the united nations general assembly he was essentially with the same thing what has been and continues to be the israeli point of view he said that the palestinian leadership made a mistake in making this vote in the first place he said that the resolution was one sided and it did not in any way it grace the security concerns and that the state of israel has...
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want to to remind you that israel did everything israel could to proceed to give a chance to this to this process we stopped buildings stopped building in some area for turn months what no government before this government and the end of the of this. of this step of israel nothing happened palestinians didn't get back to the negotiations they did back very symbolically and it was done in two weeks and it again failed so i think that israel done everything he could to bring back this process but again we have to provide security to israel. while we also spoke to ramsey baroud editor of palestine chronicle dot com who believes israel was using peace talks to stall palestine pass to statehood. when netanyahu comes and says the only way of peace is direct negotiations from the point of view of someone who doesn't really understand what's going on it sounds reasonable enough it sounds logical enough but the problem is israel has done everything in its capacity and its power to undermine any chances and any prospects for that for the so-called peace process to achieve anything since palest
want to to remind you that israel did everything israel could to proceed to give a chance to this to this process we stopped buildings stopped building in some area for turn months what no government before this government and the end of the of this. of this step of israel nothing happened palestinians didn't get back to the negotiations they did back very symbolically and it was done in two weeks and it again failed so i think that israel done everything he could to bring back this process but...
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and the land of israel. [applause] mr. president, the people of israel wait for a palestinian leader in that that is willing to follow in the path -- the world waits for president abbas to speak the truth of peace that can only be achieved through negotiation by recognizing israel as a jewish state. it waits for him to tell him that he will address israel's security needs and end the conflict once and for all. he prefers symbolism over reality, as long as he refers to travel to new york for you and resolutions rather than travel to jerusalem for hope and dialogue, any hope of peace would be out of reach. israel has always extended its hand in peace and will always extend its hand for peace. when we face and a rebel leader who wanted peace, we made peace. -- when we faced an arab leader who wanted peace, we made peace. time and again, we have been met with rejection for our offers and denial of our rights and terrorism. the only thing his story about this speech how much he has ignored history. the truth is t
and the land of israel. [applause] mr. president, the people of israel wait for a palestinian leader in that that is willing to follow in the path -- the world waits for president abbas to speak the truth of peace that can only be achieved through negotiation by recognizing israel as a jewish state. it waits for him to tell him that he will address israel's security needs and end the conflict once and for all. he prefers symbolism over reality, as long as he refers to travel to new york for you...
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this is something that israel and the u.s. have spent months lobbying against. i want to bring in jim clancy to put this in perspective here from cnn international. jim, first of all, what does this mean in very plain terms, for the palestinians if they get this upgraded status at the u.n., the significance? >> somebody calls them a state. they are allowed to join international organizations. they're even allowed to join the international criminal court. now, this is what worries israel and the united states because in doing so, they could file complaints with the court about the occupation, how palestinians are being treated. right now they have no such recourse. this is what could trigger a backlash by the u.s. and israel, who are downplaying it now saying that it's really meaningless, it doesn't have much meaning, and in a sense they're right, but for the palestinians, as can you see there in ramallah, it has incredible meaning, and it's got meaning for mahmoud abbas and fatah. this is a group completely sidelined by what hamas was doing in gaza. these are th
this is something that israel and the u.s. have spent months lobbying against. i want to bring in jim clancy to put this in perspective here from cnn international. jim, first of all, what does this mean in very plain terms, for the palestinians if they get this upgraded status at the u.n., the significance? >> somebody calls them a state. they are allowed to join international organizations. they're even allowed to join the international criminal court. now, this is what worries israel...
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. >> he negotiated a cease-fire between israel and hamas, the words were not out of president obama's mouth praising him for this, offering to help him with half a billion dollars of aid, convincing the imf to give him almost $5 billion of aid and what did morsi do? e seized all the controls of power. already got the parliament and the presidency, put his guys in the military and taking over. connell: in the old days they used to say hosni mubarak was not the best guy in the world but the u.s. can work with him. what about now? >> that is an important difference to make because he was a dictator, hosni mubarak was that he was our guy, pro-american and kept peace with israel. the new guy is a dictator too but not necessarily our guy. not necessarily pro-american. he is part of the muslim brotherhood which is a movement going through the entire middle east now, hijacking the arabs spring and they are anti-american, anti israeli and islamist. dagen: why not pull our funding from the country? >> what we should do is say to them you can't -- your people starve without our aid, they need $1
. >> he negotiated a cease-fire between israel and hamas, the words were not out of president obama's mouth praising him for this, offering to help him with half a billion dollars of aid, convincing the imf to give him almost $5 billion of aid and what did morsi do? e seized all the controls of power. already got the parliament and the presidency, put his guys in the military and taking over. connell: in the old days they used to say hosni mubarak was not the best guy in the world but the...
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as lateral son reports, both israel and the united states don't like it. >> reporter: and despite the objections especially from the united states, palestine ans have been able to secure broad support ahead of the vote. they rallied as the president headed to the united nations to seek nonmember observer status. they see it as a significant move toward statehood but the secretary of state warns it'll undermine efforts to restart peace talks with israel. >> the path to a two state solution that fills the aspirations of the palestine people through them, not new york. >> reporter: the vet comes a week after a cease fire that stopped eight days of blood shed. if the palestine president wins the vote as he is expected to it could boost his creditability with hamas in any future negotiations, there could be a price for him. members of congress are threatening to cut the united states -- gives about a half billion dollars in yearly aid to palestine. are. some are threatening to cut that. >> let's bring you to up to date on other top storey. a teen girl from oakland is still missing this mor
as lateral son reports, both israel and the united states don't like it. >> reporter: and despite the objections especially from the united states, palestine ans have been able to secure broad support ahead of the vote. they rallied as the president headed to the united nations to seek nonmember observer status. they see it as a significant move toward statehood but the secretary of state warns it'll undermine efforts to restart peace talks with israel. >> the path to a two state...
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that would help the process of delegitimizing israel in the eyes of the world, presenting israel as a criminal. that's an issue which is of great concern. >> the fact of the matter, that will only setback actual peace negotiations. martin fletcher in tel aviv. thank you. busy week for you. >>> up next, breaking with boehner. the first republican to endorse the president's version of a compromise on taxes to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. oklahoma congressman tom cole joins me next. first, a look ahead at the president's schedule. one big thing on the schedule today that everybody is fairly interested in. that's that lunch with mitt romney. we're told no cameras. we'll see. we of the white house press corps officially protesting. we'd like to force them to let there be some official fourth estate coverage of this historic event. we'll see if they grant it. you're watching "the daily rundown" only on msnbc. a winter wonderland doesn't just happen. it takes some doing. some coordinating. and a trip to the one place with the new ideas that help us pull it all together. from the things
that would help the process of delegitimizing israel in the eyes of the world, presenting israel as a criminal. that's an issue which is of great concern. >> the fact of the matter, that will only setback actual peace negotiations. martin fletcher in tel aviv. thank you. busy week for you. >>> up next, breaking with boehner. the first republican to endorse the president's version of a compromise on taxes to avoid going over the fiscal cliff. oklahoma congressman tom cole joins me...
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., canada, germany, italy, netherlands and israel. supporting it are major nations such as france, russia, china, spain, denmark, portugal, ireland, britain and australia expected to abstain. it will certainly have widespread implications for the fragile middle east, bill. bill: where are the israelis on this rather? what is their response, eric? >> reporter: yeah the israelis say that status could only come from direct talks with no preconditions. those peace talks have stalled because of the continued building in the west bank and continued violence we've seen in the gaza. this does come on the 65th anniversary of the partition that created the two-state solutions, something palestinians and arabs rejected for three generations. >> direct negotiations is the dna of israeli-palestinian political process. any attempt to exert external pressure on israel would serve as a setback to those who are really interested in peace. if what you're interested in is public relations, then, this whole thing is just an exercise in futility. >> repor
., canada, germany, italy, netherlands and israel. supporting it are major nations such as france, russia, china, spain, denmark, portugal, ireland, britain and australia expected to abstain. it will certainly have widespread implications for the fragile middle east, bill. bill: where are the israelis on this rather? what is their response, eric? >> reporter: yeah the israelis say that status could only come from direct talks with no preconditions. those peace talks have stalled because...
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. >> they will objectify the justice the palestinians have undergone beginning with the state of israel in 1948... >> reporter: the un vote comes after a cease-fire agreement at the un in gaza. some say mahmoud ahmadinejad needs to boost his own authority and we are looking at why the u.s. is opposing that, allison burns ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> we have new details about a hero at cement plant in cupertino. they issued a report, they said the truck driver tried to tackle the gunman and save his co-workers. he hid from police inside a crawl space inside a house in sunny veil. deputies shot him when he came out the next day but he actually died of a self- inflicted gunshot wound. >>> it makes six suspicious -- suspicious fires in two weeks. one damaged a mortgage business in alabama and broadway. another one was a burning chair in an alley about a half mile away. now these two fires are very close to four other fires in the past two weeks which burned two homes and two businesses. >> i don't know what it tells me but i can tell you i am worried to death. >> so far nobody has been
. >> they will objectify the justice the palestinians have undergone beginning with the state of israel in 1948... >> reporter: the un vote comes after a cease-fire agreement at the un in gaza. some say mahmoud ahmadinejad needs to boost his own authority and we are looking at why the u.s. is opposing that, allison burns ktvu channel 2 morning news. >>> we have new details about a hero at cement plant in cupertino. they issued a report, they said the truck driver tried to...
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it would provide international recognition for palestinian control over areas that israel captured in the six-day war. >> said many times that the path to a two-state solutionn that fulfilled the aspirerationn of the palestinian people is through jers lemm and ramallah and not new york. >> israel is saying it will not return to negotiations after the vote. >> brandd new details lurking in the train crash that kill would four wounded warriors. the railroad crossing only gave a 20 second warning that the train was coming. it is supposed to be 30 seconds. and the driver of the truck entered one second after the crossing guards began to lower. >> you are about to see a photothat turns a police officer in a hero now. he saw a homeless man in times square and had no shoes on his feet. he went to a scretcher's store and bought a pair of boots. a tourist of arizona snap today on the nypd page. the officer said he's kept the receipt for the is ever upon in h vest to remind him that people have it worse. >> he was worse walking around with just his jacket on. it went viral and another greatteni
it would provide international recognition for palestinian control over areas that israel captured in the six-day war. >> said many times that the path to a two-state solutionn that fulfilled the aspirerationn of the palestinian people is through jers lemm and ramallah and not new york. >> israel is saying it will not return to negotiations after the vote. >> brandd new details lurking in the train crash that kill would four wounded warriors. the railroad crossing only gave a...
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boundaries of israel. given as recently as two weeks ago urging israel to your two international law. can you explain why the u.k. government wishes to extend israel from possible actions in the icc for any future breaches of international law in this series. the second was to return without preconditions. only eight days ago they told the house going to be an acceptable settlement named in east jerusalem, we are not far from a two state solution becoming impossible and unviable. so eight days later to israel's refusal to suspend the expansion of the settlements, changing the very fact on the basis of negotiations come even if future talks get underway is a reasonable position. is it not the truth from the foreign secretary he let the cat out of the back eight days ago when he explained by stating to consider possible reaction of the u.s. congress and israel withholding tax revenues, the position of palestinian authority could be made worse by such resolution. let me ask a man does he believed the threats
boundaries of israel. given as recently as two weeks ago urging israel to your two international law. can you explain why the u.k. government wishes to extend israel from possible actions in the icc for any future breaches of international law in this series. the second was to return without preconditions. only eight days ago they told the house going to be an acceptable settlement named in east jerusalem, we are not far from a two state solution becoming impossible and unviable. so eight days...
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further settlement building the revelation angered some palestinian hardliners but ultimately showed israel's all or nothing attitude at the negotiating table and the same one embassy joining us on has been in the ecuadorian embassy for nearly six months in london this despite being granted asylum in ecuador the british response to the asylum threat to overrun the embassy and forcibly take a songe while their rhetoric has cooled down and the confrontation demonstrated something about the british mindset despite international law and that being at their side authorities in the u.k. don't really value embassy rights. number six violence in mexico the war on drugs has long been a difficult problem to tackle especially because cartels in mexico have a foothold among police army and the mexican government wiki leaks released a u.s. cable concern that narco money and firepower would play an outsized role in the two thousand and nine gubernatorial and state elections in mexico for the first time the mexican people saw the u.s. as critical judgment of its leaders and their corruption in the cables ul
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. >> israel is concerned that palestinians will be eligible to join the international criminal court. press charges of human rights violations. in the words of an israeli official, the daniel could be worse than rockets from gaza. the u.s. reportedly asked israel not to impose harsh sanctions against the palestinian authority. >> they can get pieces of paper from the-up. but they are not going move forward and not going to make the palestinian statehood more real. >> of now, more than two-third member countries recognize palestine. the vote in favor of, the nonmember statehood is expected to be overwhelming. supports include france, china and india. bret? >> bret: david lee miller, in jerusalem. thank you. >>> still ahead -- hillary clinton is on her way out. we look at her time at state. first, are clinton's former senate colleagues willing to use the nuclear option? if we want to improve our schools... ... what should we invest in? maybe new buildings? what about updated equipment? they can help, but recent research shows... ... nothing transforms schools like investing in advanced
. >> israel is concerned that palestinians will be eligible to join the international criminal court. press charges of human rights violations. in the words of an israeli official, the daniel could be worse than rockets from gaza. the u.s. reportedly asked israel not to impose harsh sanctions against the palestinian authority. >> they can get pieces of paper from the-up. but they are not going move forward and not going to make the palestinian statehood more real. >> of now,...
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well there isn't a better time to take this step the now after israel's recent most recent assault on the gaza strip all palestinian factions have reached an agreement that this could this should never happen again one palestinians are divided there is you know a new energy among the palestinian political system in its entirety how months islamic jihad all palestinian factions support this and wanted to succeed and they realize that they agree amongst one another that the priority domestic priority now is for rebuilding and for reinvigorating the democratic institutions of palestine consolidating this reconciliation and moving forward as the state of palestine towards steps on the ground that would reverse the israeli occupation and entrench independence i'm running short on time but i quickly just want to ask you palestine palestinian officials are threatening to appeal to the international criminal court if it's proven that the laid that out of what was killed will this appeal be successful without the recognition from the un. well it's not a threat saying that our country will seek
well there isn't a better time to take this step the now after israel's recent most recent assault on the gaza strip all palestinian factions have reached an agreement that this could this should never happen again one palestinians are divided there is you know a new energy among the palestinian political system in its entirety how months islamic jihad all palestinian factions support this and wanted to succeed and they realize that they agree amongst one another that the priority domestic...
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david, what is the reaction from israel to this planned vote today at the u.n.? >> the israeli reaction to the vote which is scheduled for thursday, martha is essentially one of resignation. there is not a lot of drum ma or uncertainty about the out cox the vote. israel and much of the world fully expects that the palestinian bid for a known observer status to pass overwhelmingly at the united nation. israel says it rejects the notion that the pal steup palestinians are acting eu unilaterally. israel has to be tkaeufl tha to to be careful that it doesn't impose sanctions or things that are damaging to mahmoud abbas. it could lead to a strengthening of hamas. as to the palestinian authority this is largely a symbolic effort. 132 nations currently recognize palestine. they are hoping for a vote that could produce 170 positive votes. we'll find out very soon. martha: we sure will. david lee thank you. bill: republicans have their own version of the d.r.e.a.m. act. how do you solve illegal immigration? the coautomatic thoefr the achievcoauthor of the achieve act is h
david, what is the reaction from israel to this planned vote today at the u.n.? >> the israeli reaction to the vote which is scheduled for thursday, martha is essentially one of resignation. there is not a lot of drum ma or uncertainty about the out cox the vote. israel and much of the world fully expects that the palestinian bid for a known observer status to pass overwhelmingly at the united nation. israel says it rejects the notion that the pal steup palestinians are acting eu...
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israel's cabinet chief says there will be no retreat from the presidential decree. >>> tomorrow president barack obama and governor mitt romney will have a private lunch at the white house. cnn has also learned mitt romney will meet with his former running mate congressman paul ryan of wisconsin. >>> to to politics now. today might be your lucky day. the obama administration is taking its tax fight to twitter asking you to speak out on the bush tax cuts using the hash tag my2k. that is the estimated amount in tax hikes the administration says a middle class family of four could face if the bush tax cuts expire on the middle class. but the white house isn't limiting its efforts to social media. president obama is heading to pennsylvania on friday where he'll make his pitch to extend existing tax breaks for families making $250,000 or less. joining me now cnn contributor granderson and republican strategist ron bonjean. welcome to both of you. >> good morning. >> good morning, carol. >> minutes ago we heard from eric cantor, part of the gop leadership. he was talking about avoiding the fisc
israel's cabinet chief says there will be no retreat from the presidential decree. >>> tomorrow president barack obama and governor mitt romney will have a private lunch at the white house. cnn has also learned mitt romney will meet with his former running mate congressman paul ryan of wisconsin. >>> to to politics now. today might be your lucky day. the obama administration is taking its tax fight to twitter asking you to speak out on the bush tax cuts using the hash tag...
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in the end as i said on monday, the only way we're going to see piece process that works is when israel and palestinians come to the table and talk to the final stages of issues, including jerusalem, including refugees, including borders when they do it themselves. we can wish for all we want it in the end you've got to have direct talks between the direct party to get a two-state solution we want. >> thank you, mr. speaker. prime minister will be aware that on the order of tomorrow's business, there's a debate in my name to mark the 40th anniversary of the expulsion of asians from uganda and the arrival in the uk. however, because of the need for a statement on the leveson inquiry, it's likely my debate may not be faced. i fully appreciate it. however, with the prime minister acknowledge the importance and the need for having such a need and will he do whatever he can to assure that i'm given another case? >> i think the reaction of colleagues from right across the house shows that he speaks for the whole house and avoid the whole country in wanting to speak up for the ugandan asians t
in the end as i said on monday, the only way we're going to see piece process that works is when israel and palestinians come to the table and talk to the final stages of issues, including jerusalem, including refugees, including borders when they do it themselves. we can wish for all we want it in the end you've got to have direct talks between the direct party to get a two-state solution we want. >> thank you, mr. speaker. prime minister will be aware that on the order of tomorrow's...
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israel and the u.s. oppose the palestinian state put calling on the president to return to peace talks. >> here is a live look outside the bay bridge toll plaza we will take a quick break we have rain reportedly falling at the toll plaza. the rain is beginning to spread we have seen it in the north bay. winds along the peninsula coastline we will check when we come back to see where it is raining. >> this will impact burlingame and--you could see hazardous driving conditions for highway 92. walnut creek is under the yellow right now. they have moderate to heavy rain. we are tracking a dry break for the 880 corridor. portions of the interstate 680 at it looks like it just depends on where you are but for the most part you are dry. as we take a look richer headlines we do have when the advisories about an inch when everything is all said and done. as we head into tomorrow which will be dry for the first half. as we look ahead there are rainy conditions that will last into the weekend. will have full detail
israel and the u.s. oppose the palestinian state put calling on the president to return to peace talks. >> here is a live look outside the bay bridge toll plaza we will take a quick break we have rain reportedly falling at the toll plaza. the rain is beginning to spread we have seen it in the north bay. winds along the peninsula coastline we will check when we come back to see where it is raining. >> this will impact burlingame and--you could see hazardous driving conditions for...
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. >> the indications we have or the convictions we have that israel have done this assassination but yet we still need evidence. >> israel meantime denied those allegations. >>> a fiery scene in downtown sydney, australia, today. look at this with me and you'll see a cab, look at this, of a construction crane engulfed in flames, black smoke. it gets worse. because this is the moment when the crane, this arm here collapses, falls into a building, barely misses the busy street below. here's where the story gets a little bit more intriguing. the operator of the crane was also the manager of the crane that collapsed in new york during superstorm sandy. >>> drugs, gangs, murder. one expert says that is exactly what many americans think of mexico and the country's newest leader here, the president elect, about to set down with president obama in washington. just about an hour from now. coming up next, what this could mean for the immigration fight in america. ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this
. >> the indications we have or the convictions we have that israel have done this assassination but yet we still need evidence. >> israel meantime denied those allegations. >>> a fiery scene in downtown sydney, australia, today. look at this with me and you'll see a cab, look at this, of a construction crane engulfed in flames, black smoke. it gets worse. because this is the moment when the crane, this arm here collapses, falls into a building, barely misses the busy...
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it's not israel's at. so i think that's why i think i'm a little worried about of upcoming negotiations unless the iranians are willing to disable it because we're just going to deal with that and already just on that one issue there seems to be significant disagreements. so that's why i'm a little nervous. >> i would also echo the importance of taking every opportunity we get to come to an agreement. we had the turkey-brazil deal that was broken because of this accident that just it came like a couple days too late. we had another occasion that jim referred to when there was another proposal on the table and looked like the iranians took it and took it back to tehran. the internal politics in iran is very childish in a way. many politicses tend to be childish in this situation where colleagues of ahmadinejad , how come when we make a deal you come out and you say you sold out the store? you made a deal and now we're going to support your effort? actually it didn't work out for these kind of childish and s
it's not israel's at. so i think that's why i think i'm a little worried about of upcoming negotiations unless the iranians are willing to disable it because we're just going to deal with that and already just on that one issue there seems to be significant disagreements. so that's why i'm a little nervous. >> i would also echo the importance of taking every opportunity we get to come to an agreement. we had the turkey-brazil deal that was broken because of this accident that just it came...
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car flared now what we also know is that israel stands to lose from all of this of course israel has been alarmed by the close close relationship between harassed as well as saudi arabia qatar and mohamed morsi there they coming closer together and expressing more vocal anti israel sentiment so there's a lot happening behind the scenes we're not just talking about the extermination of yasser arafat's body but we're talking about a much longer deeper ramifications. paullus live the current palestinian leadership submitted a draft resolution to the un general assembly in order to receive normal member observer status and if the bid is approved the palestinians would have more of a chance of taking legal action against israel so believes journalist james corbett . if they are successful in this bid then they will actually be able to bring the israeli government before the international criminal court to answer that for charges of war crimes etc and it is conceivable at least that they would be able to bring a case if it was proven that arafat was killed by israeli agents that they would
car flared now what we also know is that israel stands to lose from all of this of course israel has been alarmed by the close close relationship between harassed as well as saudi arabia qatar and mohamed morsi there they coming closer together and expressing more vocal anti israel sentiment so there's a lot happening behind the scenes we're not just talking about the extermination of yasser arafat's body but we're talking about a much longer deeper ramifications. paullus live the current...
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israel. israel's always said that's nonsense. they had plenty of chances over the years to kill arafat when they were at war, so why poison him when they weren't fighting? scientists say it will three months to reach a verdict, and the israelis say they are sure the verdict of death and the cause of death will be established as natural causes. natalie? >> all right. martin flesch owner the west bank for us. thank you, martin. >>> the nation's largest organic peanut butter processor has had its operations suspended by the fda. officials found salmonella all over sunland inc.'s processing plant. earlier this year 41 people across 20 states, most of them children, fell ill from the company's peanut butter which is primarily sold at trader joe's. the company had been set to reopen today. >>> a health scare for oprah winfrey. the media mogul revealed that she thought she might have breast cancer last month. the scare turned out to be a false alarm. she shared the news at an "o" magazine news conference. >>> and chaos in sydney, austra
israel. israel's always said that's nonsense. they had plenty of chances over the years to kill arafat when they were at war, so why poison him when they weren't fighting? scientists say it will three months to reach a verdict, and the israelis say they are sure the verdict of death and the cause of death will be established as natural causes. natalie? >> all right. martin flesch owner the west bank for us. thank you, martin. >>> the nation's largest organic peanut butter...
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coslet now what we also know is that israel stands to lose from all of this of course israel has been alarmed by the close close relationship between hamas as well as saudi arabia qatar and mohamed morsi they are they coming closer together and expressing more vocal anti israel sentiment so there's a lot happening behind the scenes we're not just talking about the extermination of yasser arafat's body but we're talking about much longer deeper ramifications. to discuss a sensitive procedure and potential political ramifications i'm now joined live by journalist but this is a call that control the sea over arafat's death has continued for eighty years why is it now that his body has been examined and investigation is being held well it's being examined because of this new study as you say from al jazeera that shows that polonium may have been a likely candidate in his poisoning and this is the first time that specific element has been identified as a potential poisoning agent in this case and at the time in two thousand and four it would have been somewhat unusual to have tested for po
coslet now what we also know is that israel stands to lose from all of this of course israel has been alarmed by the close close relationship between hamas as well as saudi arabia qatar and mohamed morsi they are they coming closer together and expressing more vocal anti israel sentiment so there's a lot happening behind the scenes we're not just talking about the extermination of yasser arafat's body but we're talking about much longer deeper ramifications. to discuss a sensitive procedure and...
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. >>> so the fighting began last week when hamas launched hundreds of rockets at israel, which were, i guess, in retaliation for israel killing the head of hamas's military, which was retaliation for hamas holding an israeli soldier hostage for five years, which might have been retaliation, which was in retaliation from what i heard is -- let's go back to when this thing first started. ♪
. >>> so the fighting began last week when hamas launched hundreds of rockets at israel, which were, i guess, in retaliation for israel killing the head of hamas's military, which was retaliation for hamas holding an israeli soldier hostage for five years, which might have been retaliation, which was in retaliation from what i heard is -- let's go back to when this thing first started. ♪
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they're going to enter into a war with israel. at sickened you're right. i don't think there will. but, you know, when you push too much, what happens? lucky that there happens to be an american election. so everybody hid behind each other. the security council, russia and china said sen. he is banking on iran all the time. and now he is being lucky enough , change the subject. he's been dying to do that in lebanon and everything else. now they're doing it for him in gaza. so he's been a lucky guy. >> maker really a point. tambov to the audience here. that is, the escalation of the escalation, escalation. microphones. stand up and shout it out. [inaudible question] actually, the security. research came out last year. a single status predictor of the level of security, not its welcome mat gdp, level of democratization, at the religious affiliation. is the way it treats its women and that even democracies that have high levels of violence against women are less stable than non democracies. so the reason i asked, time and again we cannot rely on the parties of the conflict. women's ri
they're going to enter into a war with israel. at sickened you're right. i don't think there will. but, you know, when you push too much, what happens? lucky that there happens to be an american election. so everybody hid behind each other. the security council, russia and china said sen. he is banking on iran all the time. and now he is being lucky enough , change the subject. he's been dying to do that in lebanon and everything else. now they're doing it for him in gaza. so he's been a lucky...
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president of egypt, president morsy, was hailed as a hero for helping to broker that cease-fire between israel and hamas. well, days later he surprised just about everybody by awarding himself sweeping new powers back home in egypt. that triggered a wave of violence in the streets. it brought crowds and protesters back to the familiar confines of tahrir square. tonight, the president of egypt is embarking on a campaign of damage control. our report from nbc's ayman mohyeldin in cairo. >> reporter: a day of mourning across egypt, in cairo, thousands paid respects to a protester killed by police. and in alexandria, a funeral for the member of the muslim brotherhood, just fifteen years old. both were victims of the riots that broke out after president morsy gave himself sweeping new powers. it ignited a wave of protests among them, and loyal supporters fighting in the streets. the muslim brotherhood were to blame, we elected them, thought they would lift us up, but they threw us to the ground. i will never vote for them again in my life, this woman says, many believe that morsy over-reached, and
president of egypt, president morsy, was hailed as a hero for helping to broker that cease-fire between israel and hamas. well, days later he surprised just about everybody by awarding himself sweeping new powers back home in egypt. that triggered a wave of violence in the streets. it brought crowds and protesters back to the familiar confines of tahrir square. tonight, the president of egypt is embarking on a campaign of damage control. our report from nbc's ayman mohyeldin in cairo. >>...
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hamas is testing israel. israel is testing egypt. there's more uncertainty than ever about syria, its relationship with iran, whether it can hold lebanon together, what is hezbollah doing now that its backers are in their own fights inside syria. the evolving role of qatar and saudi arabia, and turkey playing a role. it's enormous. of anything at the security conference, this is probably the least secure discussion there is. i'm reminded of bob dylan's favorite song, "along the watchtower," and that should be our anthem this morning. there must be a way out of here so let's aim for some relief and less confusion, and i want to propose the following format just for the beginning of this panel, and then i think i want to open it up to a lot of questions from the floor
hamas is testing israel. israel is testing egypt. there's more uncertainty than ever about syria, its relationship with iran, whether it can hold lebanon together, what is hezbollah doing now that its backers are in their own fights inside syria. the evolving role of qatar and saudi arabia, and turkey playing a role. it's enormous. of anything at the security conference, this is probably the least secure discussion there is. i'm reminded of bob dylan's favorite song, "along the...
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israel has been accused of being involved. the government refuses to comment. police found and defused a bomb planted under the car of a tv anchor. he was shopping for groceries when someone spotted a suspicious looking back under his car. his and threatened for covering the tell then shooting of a 15 year-old girl. he said he will not be silenced by threats saying they tell than once to stop journalist from speaking the truth. >> another check on traffic this monday evening the bay bridge toll plaza all lanes fasttrack car pool pay gates moving well. no problem. we will be back. [ laughter ] [ girl ] wow, you guys have it easy. i wish i had u-verse when i was your age. in my day, we didn't have these fancy wireless receivers. blah blah blah. if i had a sleepover, i couldn't just move the tv into the playroom. no. we had to watch movies in the den because that's where the tv outlet was. and if dad was snoring on the couch, we muscled through it. is she for real? your generation has it made. [ male announcer ] the wireless receiver only from at&t u-verse. get a
israel has been accused of being involved. the government refuses to comment. police found and defused a bomb planted under the car of a tv anchor. he was shopping for groceries when someone spotted a suspicious looking back under his car. his and threatened for covering the tell then shooting of a 15 year-old girl. he said he will not be silenced by threats saying they tell than once to stop journalist from speaking the truth. >> another check on traffic this monday evening the bay...
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hamas attack on israel is not new. here we are, being reminded once more, be careful what you wish for. we want a democracy. we seem to be getting is long -- islamization. a movement that is not friendly towards the west, let alone to israel. so, what do we do until the good guys really become good guys? islamists become good, liberal democrats? it is a really harsh question i am asking. did we do better with the mubarak's for about 30 or 40 years? >> such me just respond very quickly. there were some of us back in 2000, 2001, 2002, who tried to assert an hour for an age to -- in our foreign aid to egypt for human rights, for other reforms that we felt were very necessary. because, obviously, the nature of the mubarak government. i am not saying that we should shun every government because they're not democratic. but what we should do, through as much persuasive powers as we have, including foreign aid, is to move them in the direction that we seek them to go. i would also at that there was nothing in the world that an
hamas attack on israel is not new. here we are, being reminded once more, be careful what you wish for. we want a democracy. we seem to be getting is long -- islamization. a movement that is not friendly towards the west, let alone to israel. so, what do we do until the good guys really become good guys? islamists become good, liberal democrats? it is a really harsh question i am asking. did we do better with the mubarak's for about 30 or 40 years? >> such me just respond very quickly....